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Twilight - 11/20/2008 5:00:48 PM
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Catalpa
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My DD has been begging and begging to go see this film. It makes me uneasy...a vampire cast as a good guy. I've also read a review of the book that says the relationship between the girl and the vampire can be considered abusive; she forsakes family and friends and her humanity just to 'worship' him, and he controls who she sees and what she does.
Have any of you read the book? What do you think of the film? I've watched the trailers on the internet, and nothing I see makes me think my DD should see it, but she's begging and begging. She's 13, at that very impressionable age where every girl has secret dreams of a strong, powerful boy making her feel special, and this story play right into that.
Would this just be another exercize in make-believe, a story to be enjoyed and then forgotten, or should I keep her home? She'll get mad, but she'll get over it, I do make the rules for us. I'm struggling with that fine line of being overprotective vs. keeping her out of trouble.
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RE: Twilight - 11/20/2008 5:25:25 PM
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A friend gave me these books semi-recently. I still haven't quite finished the first one. Unfortunately, I committed to seeing the movie before reading the book. I'm not into pop lit, especially teen romance pop lit. That's even worse than Grisham.
There is absolutely nothing to worry about with this movie. The vampire is cast as a good guy because he is a good guy. He "hunts" animals, not humans. Their romance is somewhat realistic, it isn't about "worshiping" him...it's about what all teenagers do. Get involved, and forget that a world exists outside of their relationship. Unnecessary drama brought about by bad communication. I'd say that morally it's not as bad as Harry Potter...for what it's worth.
Edit- You know your daughter...it's up to you to judge her maturity level for her age.
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RE: Twilight - 11/20/2008 9:40:50 PM
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As I said in the other thread, I did not let my 15 yo have anything to do with Harry Potter. She was very young when those came out. She has read the Twilight books and will be seeing the movie tomorrow night. You know your daughter and you are able to make the best decision for her.
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RE: Twilight - 11/21/2008 3:05:00 AM
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Went to the midnight showing. It was insane. The crowds, that is. Very surprised to see four theaters full of teenage girls, especially since they had school the next day.
Nothing to worry about as far as the movie goes. I don't remember hearing a single swear word...could be wrong. Pretty clean. A little bit of violence, tame compared to most movies. As far as the quality, it was ok...I guess. Cheesy and bad. Which worked in its favor. All the girls in the theater were constantly screaming every time a new character showed up. I don't get what the fuss is, then again...I'm not a fifteen year-old girl.
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RE: Twilight - 11/21/2008 9:14:41 AM
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Went to the midnight showing. It was insane. The crowds, that is. Very surprised to see four theaters full of teenage girls, especially since they had school the next day.
Nothing to worry about as far as the movie goes. I don't remember hearing a single swear word...could be wrong. Pretty clean. A little bit of violence, tame compared to most movies. As far as the quality, it was ok...I guess. Cheesy and bad. Which worked in its favor. All the girls in the theater were constantly screaming every time a new character showed up. I don't get what the fuss is, then again...I'm not a fifteen year-old girl.
You're surprised that 15 and 16 year old girls are allowed up past midnight these days? Half the parents out there don't even know when their kids come home, even if it is a school night. Well, no, I'm being mean. Our schools have out the next week, so today will be a difficult day to get work out of school kids even if they weren't in bed at 3am.
The reviews for this thing are pretty horrible. More then one said to go home and reread the books. I don't remember, but I'm curious how the reviews stand next to the Potter films, since the two series seem to get so much comparison.
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RE: Twilight - 11/21/2008 11:28:33 AM
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Why is it that we as Christians fail to see the spiritual deception within the books and movies?
It's ok to admire those who are undead because they only drink animal blood?
It's ok to be willing to desire to become an undead in order to have true love?
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RE: Twilight - 11/21/2008 11:58:03 AM
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It doesn't seem that you really know much about the content and themes of this series, BHL. I suggest you go to the Twilight thread in the Parenting forums and click on the link I posted from Christianity Today.
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RE: Twilight - 11/21/2008 12:00:26 PM
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The reviews for this thing are pretty horrible. More then one said to go home and reread the books. I don't remember, but I'm curious how the reviews stand next to the Potter films, since the two series seem to get so much comparison.
Actually, now that more reviews have come out, there are more positive ones. Harry from AintItCool really liked it (and he's like America's Head Geek) although two other reviewers over there didn't. Salon, which I think is generally on target with a lot of their reviews (even though I'm not on the same page politically with their editorial staff) have a really positive review. So do Time magazine and the L.A. Times.
Me, I'm not expecting it to be the best. movie. ever. Or even the best. vampire. movie. ever. It's a low budget romance, targeting a young female audience. With better actors and a better director than, say, Underworld...but not as good special effects, due to the extremely low budget.
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RE: Twilight - 11/21/2008 12:05:44 PM
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Why is it that we as Christians fail to see the spiritual deception within the books and movies?
It's ok to admire those who are undead because they only drink animal blood?
It's ok to be willing to desire to become an undead in order to have true love?
God Bless
The world has similar things to say about me letting her read the Bible.
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RE: Twilight - 11/21/2008 12:56:50 PM
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Why is it that we as Christians fail to see the spiritual deception within the books and movies?
It's ok to admire those who are undead because they only drink animal blood?
It's ok to be willing to desire to become an undead in order to have true love?
God Bless
Gold star for silliest post of the week.
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RE: Twilight - 11/21/2008 5:27:13 PM
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It doesn't seem that you really know much about the content and themes of this series, BHL. I suggest you go to the Twilight thread in the Parenting forums and click on the link I posted from Christianity Today.
Actually I have read a number of articles from Christian websites such as Crosswalk as well as the article you have mentioned. Now perhaps I'm a bit wrong, but then again maybe I'm right.
B.C. I couldn't wait for the latest Anne Rice novel to come out, whether it be about Lestat or her witch Rowan. A.D. I've come to understand that part of the devil's trickery is to throw something at us that makes us gasp at the horror and ungodliness. Then he comes back later on with something that's no so unholy, so we start thinking that this isn't so bad. So we take it and we get comfortable with it. Then the cycle repeats with something more horrific, then we get something a less horrific but a little less holy (for lack of better words) than before.
Sure Edward's a saint compared to Lestat. But the ways of God are not comparative, they are absolute and as Christians we should constantly strain toward what is ahead and press on towards what is ahead (Ph 3:13) and be watchful for spiritual deception. This is why we were warned to be as wise as serpents, for how can we recognize deception if we are unable to think as deception would?
Like I said above, maybe I'm wrong. But then again, doesn't that fruit in the garden look and taste good?
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RE: Twilight - 11/21/2008 5:35:24 PM
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Why is it that we as Christians fail to see the spiritual deception within the books and movies?
It's ok to admire those who are undead because they only drink animal blood?
It's ok to be willing to desire to become an undead in order to have true love?
God Bless
Gold star for silliest post of the week.
read Romans 1:21-23, and then ask yourself why are the youth so infatuated with this book series when they should be infatuated with Christ.
It's time for Christian revival and I don't mean church revival. I mean of our individual hearts.
My son's going to a youth conference this weekend. Where are you going?
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RE: Twilight - 11/21/2008 6:45:49 PM
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My son's going to a youth conference this weekend. Where are you going?
I appreciate you intent, however in all honesty this sounds more like you are attempting to prove yourself a better parent than those of us who disagree with you about the movie.
Quite honestly it worries me to think too much about where my sons are on the weekends since both of them are volunteer firefighters.
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RE: Twilight - 11/21/2008 7:53:12 PM
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My son's going to a youth conference this weekend. Where are you going?
I will be writing a paper on Exclusivism and how it relates to the mission field as part of my preparation to becoming a full-time youth pastor, working with these wild teens without Christ, as you pointed out.
But thank you for asking.
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RE: Twilight - 11/21/2008 7:58:30 PM
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My son's going to a youth conference this weekend. Where are you going?
I appreciate you intent, however in all honesty this sounds more like you are attempting to prove yourself a better parent than those of us who disagree with you about the movie.
Quite honestly it worries me to think too much about where my sons are on the weekends since both of them are volunteer firefighters.
You are correct. I realized during the drive home, that my words failed to properly express what was truly in my heart and were easily construable as being self-righteous. To which I must apologize for.
The intent was to say that the choices we make as parents regarding our childrens' activities have a profound effect on who they will grow to be in Christ. We should all strive to guide them down that narrow path from which it is easy to slip from with all the worldly distractions thrown at them. I know I make some wrong decisions at times and am by no means perfect.
As Christians, we are to help one another in our walk with God. That's all I'm trying to do here. One girl in our church lost some interest in the movie after I spoke with her. Hopefully for some the fruit doesn't quite appear as good as it did before.
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RE: Twilight - 11/21/2008 7:59:34 PM
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My son's going to a youth conference this weekend. Where are you going?
I will be writing a paper on Exclusivism and how it relates to the mission field as part of my preparation to becoming a full-time youth pastor, working with these wild teens without Christ, as you pointed out.
But thank you for asking.
Well then, to God the Glory.
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RE: Twilight - 11/22/2008 10:20:17 AM
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My oldest daughter saw the movie at 12:45 a.m. opening day or night in her case. She said the movie was ok but as with a lot of movies that were made from a book it didn't live up to the book.
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RE: Twilight - 11/22/2008 11:51:26 AM
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My dd said the movie wasn't nearly as good as she had hoped it would be.
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RE: Twilight - 11/22/2008 12:35:12 PM
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My dd said the movie wasn't nearly as good as she had hoped it would be.
They never are.
Personally, I won't see the film, but from I've heard there's no moral quandary for those who wish to see it - unless, like BHL, they are convicted against all thinks that present the occult in any way.
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RE: Twilight - 11/22/2008 5:08:19 PM
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I went with DD#1 today. My expectations were lowered because of the mixed reviews. I think that the actors were all really good choices for the parts. The cinematography was beautiful. The special effects showed signs of the low budget. The pale makeup was way overdone (I think the makeup artist took one look at Kristen Stewart, who is really fair-skinned, and said, "we've GOT to make the vampires more pale than the human!"). DD#1 was not happy that they had to cut so much from the book, but the book was really long, so they had to cut something. I think they stayed mostly true to the plot of the first book while condensing it. Overall, I'd rate it 3 stars out of four, and I hope they get the budget they need for the next one.
The pale makeup was really the only thing that distracted my attention and "took me out" of scenes.
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RE: Twilight - 11/22/2008 7:11:41 PM
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Considering that it grossed as much as its budget in one day, I think it will definitely get the budget it deserves next time around. A sequel is almost guaranteed at this point.
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