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What should be done with the leftover fertilized eggs from IVF?


They should be destroyed.
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They should be used in stem cell research.
  16% (2)
They should be given to couples who want kids, but can't have them.
  50% (6)
Don't feel one way or the other.
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Don't know.
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What should be done with the leftover fertilized eggs f... - 12/4/2008 9:27:41 PM   
His_4_Ever


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IVF "Leftovers" and Stem Cell Research

I have to admit I'm sort of torn on this issue. I feel on one hand to destroy them is wrong and on the other hand allowing them to be use in research would be like "torturing them". I understand the potential scientific advances that could be made and scientific research always requires sacrifices of some sort. I doubt very many people would refuse medical treatment that came on the back of stem cell research, especially if it were life or death. To just destroy them would be a waste of life. It would appear the only viable solution is to give them to couples who can't concieve, but wouldn't that be unethical?

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RE: What should be done with the leftover fertilized eg... - 12/4/2008 11:40:29 PM   
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Probably until I was faced with this specific issue ie:'leftover' embryos(I'm a single guy)or the potential products of therapy I can't really say. From my perspective, it's best not to have to decide these eternal questions because of the eternal consequences. Personally, if I had 'extra' embryos I tend to think I would destroy rather then donate or 'torture' them. Perhaps that's pretty harsh, I know, but two wrongs don't equal a right for procreation of a viable, living being would be my responsibly regardless of an opportunity for personal nurture and training. I wouldn't want my genes loose without my influence.

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RE: What should be done with the leftover fertilized eg... - 12/5/2008 12:10:30 AM   
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I think it depends on the couple's moral convictions... whether or not they believe the zygote is a person.

I think they should be given up to others, used for research.... or if the couple isn't comfortable giving them up but believes it's murder to destroy the zygote, perhaps they could just let it sit there and do nothing. But they do eventually degrade and die after so long.

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RE: What should be done with the leftover fertilized eg... - 12/5/2008 12:19:14 AM   
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quote:

Probably until I was faced with this specific issue ie:'leftover' embryos(I'm a single guy)or the potential products of therapy I can't really say. From my perspective, it's best not to have to decide these eternal questions because of the eternal consequences. Personally, if I had 'extra' embryos I tend to think I would destroy rather then donate or 'torture' them. Perhaps that's pretty harsh, I know, but two wrongs don't equal a right for procreation of a viable, living being would be my responsibly regardless of an opportunity for personal nurture and training. I wouldn't want my genes loose without my influence.


I am not a big fan of IVF for this reason, but when it happens, why not put the little people up for adoption?

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RE: What should be done with the leftover fertilized eg... - 12/5/2008 2:26:59 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LCannon

I wouldn't want my genes loose without my influence.


When you put it like that, I guess I wouldn't want mine loose either.
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RE: What should be done with the leftover fertilized eg... - 12/5/2008 2:29:02 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Jhud

I am not a big fan of IVF for this reason, but when it happens, why not put the little people up for adoption?


Wow, I never knew they organizations like that. Thanx for the link.
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RE: What should be done with the leftover fertilized eg... - 12/5/2008 2:34:37 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: solo_soprano22

I think it depends on the couple's moral convictions... whether or not they believe the zygote is a person.

I think they should be given up to others, used for research.... or if the couple isn't comfortable giving them up but believes it's murder to destroy the zygote, perhaps they could just let it sit there and do nothing. But they do eventually degrade and die after so long.


Agreed. If one doesn't believe leftover zygotes should be destroyed, used for research or given away, one shouldn't have the procedure at all.

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RE: What should be done with the leftover fertilized eg... - 12/5/2008 2:40:18 PM   
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I have some friends who used IVF for their 4 children and have several left over. They don't want to destroy them because they believe it would be murder and I've mentioned then they could give them to an infertile couple. Then they say, "wouldn't it be weird letting someone else have your kids?" I can see both sides, but if you're just going to let them sit around and eventually die off, why not give them to people who wouldn't be able to give birth otherwise?
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RE: What should be done with the leftover fertilized eg... - 12/5/2008 6:47:57 PM   
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"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive." What are we to do with someone who needs a kidney transplant because has been stabbed by a thief? Poetic justice would be for the thief to donate the kidney. So, maybe whoever made the choice to consomate the fertilization should be required to see that the eggs are given every opportunity to live a full life. Child support and/or a parenting plan.

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RE: What should be done with the leftover fertilized eg... - 12/5/2008 6:50:56 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: girlbassist

I have some friends who used IVF for their 4 children and have several left over. They don't want to destroy them because they believe it would be murder and I've mentioned then they could give them to an infertile couple. Then they say, "wouldn't it be weird letting someone else have your kids?" I can see both sides, but if you're just going to let them sit around and eventually die off, why not give them to people who wouldn't be able to give birth otherwise?


So, your friends are apposed to adoption?

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RE: What should be done with the leftover fertilized eg... - 12/5/2008 8:10:25 PM   
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I'm sure they're not opposed to adoption, but it's a moral dilemma of what to do with the eggs. I personally see no diff between that and adoption, but it's not my place to chose the option for them.
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RE: What should be done with the leftover fertilized eg... - 12/5/2008 11:07:15 PM   
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ORIGINAL: girlbassist

I'm sure they're not opposed to adoption, but it's a moral dilemma of what to do with the eggs. I personally see no diff between that and adoption, but it's not my place to chose the option for them.


I said nothing about choosing the option for them. Remember we are our brother's keeper. One must use tact in determining how to influence the legal decision makers. I don't believe anyone on these forums can give you specific advise on how to proceed, since we do not know these people. However, this does not relieve us of the resposibility to influence those decisions. Rememeber what Adonai said the Ezekiel:

Ez 3:17-21 "Son of man, I have made you a watchman for the house of Israel; so hear the word I speak and give them warning from me. When I say to a wicked man, 'You will surely die,' and you do not warn him or speak out to dissuade him from his evil ways in order to save his life, that wicked man will die for his sin, and I will hold you accountable for his blood. But if you do warn the wicked man and he does not turn from his wickedness or from his evil ways, he will die for his sin; but you will have saved yourself. Again, when a righteous man turns from his righteousness and does evil, and I put a stumbling block before him, he will die. Since you did not warn him, he will die for his sin. The righteous things he did will not be remembered, and I will hold you accountable for his blood. But if you do warn the righteous man not to sin and he does not sin, he will surely live because he took warning, and you will have saved yourself."

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RE: What should be done with the leftover fertilized eg... - 12/6/2008 10:11:00 AM   
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Like I've said, I've given them my opinion on the matter, but it's ultimately up to them to make the decision.
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