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Will 'Early Detection' be the NEW enemy? - 11/26/2008 10:23:02 AM
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TMeeks
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For most of my life, the concept that "Early Detection Saves Lives" has been a driving force in health care. But, not if Tom Daschle has his way as the potential new Health and Human Services Secretary. We know because he's written a book.
I'm not very happy that so many of my fellow American's have completely lost the ability to think in the long term and voted for 'change' without even bothering to understand WHAT that change entailed. Idiots tend to drag others down with them and this is not exception. We will ALL get stuck due to the least astute among us... now that they seem to outnumber those that can see the long term consequences.
There are two commentaries today that are worth reading if you are interested in quality healthcare rather than something posing as healthcare.
The first is this commentary by Tony Blankley revealing some items in Dashle's book, "Critical: What we can do about the health-care crisis." What's astounding, is that Dashle is SO convinced that the American electorate is easily duped that he outlines his strategy for duping them!
The other is an editorial entitled "The coming health-care tsunami" that reveals the UNFUNDED liability for Medicare stands at $1.3 MILLION per family of four. Did you get that number? And, that is just for medicare!
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RE: Will 'Early Detection' be the NEW enemy? - 11/26/2008 10:33:23 AM
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rlj
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Interesting reads really. Daschle understands part of where Hillary-Care went wrong and that was too much info on it got out.
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The other is an editorial entitled "The coming health-care tsunami" that reveals the UNFUNDED liability for Medicare stands at $1.3 MILLION per family of four. Did you get that number? And, that is just for medicare!
Which is why they want control of the health system. I would prefer the government either get out of the system entirely or else take it over completely. Half and half isn't working.
If I was going to worry about this - which I am not because it is out of my hands totally now - I would be worried that Republicans will not be able to filibuster any discussion on this. Even if they have 40 are they really going to be able to rally those 40 men and/or women together to stop something like this?
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Consultin' with the rain
And my head I'd be scratchin'
While my thoughts were busy hatchin'
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RE: Will 'Early Detection' be the NEW enemy? - 11/26/2008 9:48:04 PM
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I will be turning the magic age for medicare in the near future. I don't want it because not a single one of my doctors will take medicare patients. And, I can't even go to them on my own dime once I'm enrolled in medicare.
Fortunately, the health care I'm currently under does not require me to switch until retirement. But, if I worked for a company having less than 20 employees I WOULD, I believe, be forced into medicare.
My in-laws are in the same boat. They cannot find excellent doctors that will take medicare. So, they have no family physician and that has been a HUGE problem dealing with a hospitalization, etc.
I suspect MASSIVE retirements of the best physicians should Dashle get his way.
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ORIGINAL: rlj
Interesting reads really. Daschle understands part of where Hillary-Care went wrong and that was too much info on it got out.
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The other is an editorial entitled "The coming health-care tsunami" that reveals the UNFUNDED liability for Medicare stands at $1.3 MILLION per family of four. Did you get that number? And, that is just for medicare!
Which is why they want control of the health system. I would prefer the government either get out of the system entirely or else take it over completely. Half and half isn't working.
If I was going to worry about this - which I am not because it is out of my hands totally now - I would be worried that Republicans will not be able to filibuster any discussion on this. Even if they have 40 are they really going to be able to rally those 40 men and/or women together to stop something like this?
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RE: Will 'Early Detection' be the NEW enemy? - 11/27/2008 7:33:59 AM
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rlj
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And, I can't even go to them on my own dime once I'm enrolled in medicare.
Oh, I never heard of that. Can you explain a little more please?
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I suspect MASSIVE retirements of the best physicians should Dashle get his way.
Let me add a couple of quick things on that. Physicians can't just retire. My doctor would like to retire (he wasn't young when I started going to him over 20 years ago!) but the insurance policy for that in my state was between $50,000 and $100,000. This is a malpractise policy that covers you for anything you may have screwed up or allegedly screwed up while you were practising.
As for an exodus of the best physicians this is already happening in the field of general practise. This is not the best link by far of a recent article I read. Somewhere out there I ran into an article shortly after the election that mentions the lack of primary care doctors, Obama's desire to get everyone a doctor or some such and the fact that this would cause an even greater shortage in primary care physicians.
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Getting a General Practitioner in the United States may become even harder in the years to come with only 2 percent of graduating med students planning to work in primary care.
Who will be taking care of the sick if all doctors go for specialties in order to afford their med school debts?
Almost 1,200 fourth year medical students were surveyed to see who will be going into family practice. Only 2 percent of those have that goal in mind according to a study published in the Journal of the American Medical Association. That’s 7 percent less than in 1990.
http://timeinmoments.wordpress.com/2008/09/10/family-practise-doctors-becoming-rare-breed/
This is a quick article but it mentions how fighting with insurance companies and the government over reduced payments is making family practise far more difficult than it needs to be.
This is one I read a week ago on the subject but it is only a quickie Yahoo mention:
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WASHINGTON (Reuters) – Primary care doctors in the United States feel overworked and nearly half plan to either cut back on how many patients they see or quit medicine entirely, according to a survey released on Tuesday.
And 60 percent of 12,000 general practice physicians found they would not recommend medicine as a career.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20081118/hl_nm/us_doctors_usa_survey_3
Happy Thanksgiving to whoever pops in this thread. :D
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I could wile away the hours
Conferrin' with the flowers
Consultin' with the rain
And my head I'd be scratchin'
While my thoughts were busy hatchin'
If I only had a brain
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RE: Will 'Early Detection' be the NEW enemy? - 11/27/2008 11:13:23 AM
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rlj, this is why I am so against "Health" Insurance and/or Gov. run Health Care.
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As for an exodus of the best physicians this is already happening in the field of general practise.
And in other fields, such as OB and GYN Doctors; woman are hard pressed finding practicing GYNs in my state.
At this point in time, I think Every Doctor should get out from under of the Dictatorship of Health Insurance Companies and the Drug/Pharmaceutical Companies --- even if that means a massive rebellion of refusing to comply to the laws and rules that licensed Practicer's are governed by in the treatment of the sick and injured people. I don't see any other way to bring it back to where it should be --- Doctors and Patent business only.
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Happy Thanksgiving to whoever pops in this thread. :D
Happy Thanksgiving to you too.
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RE: Will 'Early Detection' be the NEW enemy? - 11/27/2008 10:27:01 PM
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TMeeks
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I'm not a lawyer; but, I believe that this is the law concerning a non-participating physicain treating a medicare patient on their own dime. It appears from reading it that one has to have a contract that is filed with the 'secretary'... presumably Health & Human Services. It makes your head spin to read it.
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ORIGINAL: rlj
Interesting reads really. Daschle understands part of where Hillary-Care went wrong and that was too much info on it got out.
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The other is an editorial entitled "The coming health-care tsunami" that reveals the UNFUNDED liability for Medicare stands at $1.3 MILLION per family of four. Did you get that number? And, that is just for medicare!
Which is why they want control of the health system. I would prefer the government either get out of the system entirely or else take it over completely. Half and half isn't working.
If I was going to worry about this - which I am not because it is out of my hands totally now - I would be worried that Republicans will not be able to filibuster any discussion on this. Even if they have 40 are they really going to be able to rally those 40 men and/or women together to stop something like this?
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Galatians 6:7 Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows. 8 The one who sows to please his sinful nature, from that nature will reap destruction; the one who sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit will reap eternal life.
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