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classic jesus music - 11/30/2008 7:07:13 PM
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imperialsfan
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 right now i have a classic jesus music group in my cd player called the imperials. since ive been saved which has been almost 30 but not quite. ive been a fan of the old classic jesus music songs from such groups like petra, farrell and farrell. andrus and blackwood, chris christian, steve archer, wayne watson, amy grant, the list goes on and on. so the question was who is the all-time bass player well i think it has to be bob hartman of petra or the guy from rez band those r the only 2 bass players i can think of so tell me what is or what r some of r guys and gals favorite jesus music groups john
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RE: classic jesus music - 11/30/2008 8:56:06 PM
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Oh there are lots, but my CCM goes more towars the 80's instead:
Steve Taylor
Randy Stonehill
Servant
Whiteheart
Bash 'N the Code
Kim Boyce
Bryan Duncan
Degarmo & Key
Petra
Allies
Just to name a few.
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RE: classic jesus music - 11/30/2008 9:39:02 PM
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John,
Welcome to the boards. There are a few of us on here who were listening to Christian music during this era. As for the Imperials, I did enjoy the Russ Taff/Paul Smith period, but that's about it. You have to hand it to them though, for sticking around so long. And any group that Elvis thought enough of to use as his backing vocalists certainly has something going for it.
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RE: classic jesus music - 11/30/2008 9:43:15 PM
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the imperials now are going strong and some powerful vocalists. one of them posts at times in the Southern Gospel threads.
i prefer
petra
david and the giants
degarmo and key
arkangel
whiteheart
whitecross
2cd chapter of acts
dallas holm
wayne watson
steve green
carman
ffh
among many others from the 70's 80's
back then they would openly speak of Jesus in almost every song. one of my all time favorite songs is I Saw The Lord by Dallas Holm
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RE: classic jesus music - 11/30/2008 9:49:06 PM
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humbleinspirit
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Oh yes, I also like Carman and Crumbacher too!
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RE: classic jesus music - 11/30/2008 10:01:13 PM
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Bob Hartman was the guitarist for Petra, not the bass player. The main bass players were Mark Kelly and then Ronnie Cates. I always felt that Petra had outstanding lyrics, and Greg X. Volz was a freakishly good singer (4-octave range!). White Heart had better music, though. Some really incredible musicians came through that band. Freedom was musically the best Christian album of the 90's.
Early Michael W. Smith-- i 2 (eye) was his last good album, but it was awesome. Everything he did up to then was great.
I thought Amy Grant's Age to Age and Unguarded were terrific albums
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RE: classic jesus music - 11/30/2008 10:11:59 PM
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Lets add Rich Mullins to the list too.
And Margaret Becker.
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RE: classic jesus music - 11/30/2008 10:38:40 PM
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This may be a bit off-the-beaten-path for some, but Glenn Kaiser has some good classic Christian music.
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RE: classic jesus music - 11/30/2008 10:41:26 PM
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Rez Band!
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RE: classic jesus music - 11/30/2008 11:03:42 PM
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You can't have a discussion on Jesus music without mentioning the late, great Keith Green.
Asleep in the Light
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RE: classic jesus music - 12/1/2008 7:20:54 AM
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Paul Clark
Love Song
The Way
Debby Kerner and Ernie Rottino
Glenn Schwartz and the All Saved Freak Band
AND-
You can't have a discussion on Jesus music without mentioning the late, great Larry Norman, who started it all. He also invented Rock Opera (Lion's Breath was the inspiration for the Who's Tommy) and has the earliest Rap recording I know of - "Reader's Digest" 1972 (album - Only Visiting this Planet).
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RE: classic jesus music - 12/1/2008 3:40:21 PM
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You can't have a discussion on Jesus music without mentioning the late, great Keith Green.
Asleep in the Light
Amen. Nobody before or since has written lyrics like Keith. And he was as gifted a pianist as anyone in rock music, ever.
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RE: classic jesus music - 12/1/2008 4:31:45 PM
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imperialsfan
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 I have just got some of the imperials music here in buffalo bout a couple of weeks ago, such hits as i litsen to the trumpet of jesus and also im forgiven,
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ORIGINAL: JoeyWest
the imperials now are going strong and some powerful vocalists. one of them posts at times in the Southern Gospel threads.
i prefer
petra
david and the giants
degarmo and key
arkangel
whiteheart
whitecross
2cd chapter of acts
dallas holm
wayne watson
steve green
carman
ffh
among many others from the 70's 80's
back then they would openly speak of Jesus in almost every song. one of my all time favorite songs is I Saw The Lord by Dallas Holm
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RE: classic jesus music - 12/1/2008 10:04:53 PM
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You can't have a discussion on Jesus music without mentioning the late, great Larry Norman, who started it all. He also invented Rock Opera (Lion's Breath was the inspiration for the Who's Tommy) .
Interesting. I've never heard that before. Just curious if Pete Townshend has sited Norman as the inspiration. I honestly doubt that Townshend ever heard of Norman, especially before or during the writing of Tommy, but who knows. I'd love to see something that backs this up, such as Townshend mentioning Norman in an interview or something similar. Please let me know if something of this nature is archived somewhere - like I said, I'd be very interested in reading it.
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RE: classic jesus music - 12/2/2008 12:12:40 PM
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Interesting. I've never heard that before. Just curious if Pete Townshend has sited Norman as the inspiration. I honestly doubt that Townshend ever heard of Norman, especially before or during the writing of Tommy, but who knows. I'd love to see something that backs this up, such as Townshend mentioning Norman in an interview or something similar. Please let me know if something of this nature is archived somewhere - like I said, I'd be very interested in reading it. Norman was with the band "People" in the mid 60s. They opened for the Who the summer before Townshend and Daltry wrote Tommy. On Norman's website, he said that they (Townshend and Daltry) watched them perform Lion's Breath every concert for the whole tour. I tried to find the link but they have been redoing it since his passing and cannot now find it.
This is from the current bio listed: http://www.larrynorman.com/bio.html
Upon moving to San Jose, California, he began recording for Capitol Records with his band People! in 1966 and for the next 2 years performed concerts supporting The Doors, The Who, Janis Joplin, and Jimi Hendrix, among others. People! scored a Billboard Chart hit in 1968 with a cover of The Zombies’ song “I Love You.” Norman left the band the day People!’s debut album was released.
From his obit on Pitchforkmedia.com: http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/news/48926-christian-music-legend-larry-norman-rip
He also won fans from across rock, including Bob Dylan, Pete Townshend, U2, Van Morrison, John Mellencamp, Danielson, and even Frank Black, who joined Norman onstage at a 2005 concert.
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From another obit, Townshend is quoted as giving him credit. ("the Epic" was an early version of "Lion's Breath.")
http://reepicheep-ajf.blogspot.com/2008/02/larry-norman-died-yesterday.html
Larry and his band People! opened for secular groups like The Grateful Dead, The Doors, Janis Joplin, The Byrds and many others. Larry was outspoken about his beliefs. His music was original and thought-provoking. Pete Townshend credited Larry's own rock-opera, The Epic, for inspiring the rock-opera, Tommy, recorded by The Who.
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RE: classic jesus music - 12/2/2008 2:19:34 PM
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Bassists are somewhat under-appreciated, but a few I think could be nominated as being the best in classic Christian music (70s and 80s) are: Tim Gaines (Stryper), Jim Denton (Resurrection Band), and Tim Chandler (Daniel Amos/The Choir).
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RE: classic jesus music - 12/2/2008 9:28:27 PM
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Interesting. I've never heard that before. Just curious if Pete Townshend has sited Norman as the inspiration. I honestly doubt that Townshend ever heard of Norman, especially before or during the writing of Tommy, but who knows. I'd love to see something that backs this up, such as Townshend mentioning Norman in an interview or something similar. Please let me know if something of this nature is archived somewhere - like I said, I'd be very interested in reading it. Norman was with the band "People" in the mid 60s. They opened for the Who the summer before Townshend and Daltry wrote Tommy. On Norman's website, he said that they (Townshend and Daltry) watched them perform Lion's Breath every concert for the whole tour. I tried to find the link but they have been redoing it since his passing and cannot now find it.
This is from the current bio listed: http://www.larrynorman.com/bio.html
Upon moving to San Jose, California, he began recording for Capitol Records with his band People! in 1966 and for the next 2 years performed concerts supporting The Doors, The Who, Janis Joplin, and Jimi Hendrix, among others. People! scored a Billboard Chart hit in 1968 with a cover of The Zombies’ song “I Love You.” Norman left the band the day People!’s debut album was released.
From his obit on Pitchforkmedia.com: http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/news/48926-christian-music-legend-larry-norman-rip
He also won fans from across rock, including Bob Dylan, Pete Townshend, U2, Van Morrison, John Mellencamp, Danielson, and even Frank Black, who joined Norman onstage at a 2005 concert.
Edited to add:
From another obit, Townshend is quoted as giving him credit. ("the Epic" was an early version of "Lion's Breath.")
http://reepicheep-ajf.blogspot.com/2008/02/larry-norman-died-yesterday.html
Larry and his band People! opened for secular groups like The Grateful Dead, The Doors, Janis Joplin, The Byrds and many others. Larry was outspoken about his beliefs. His music was original and thought-provoking. Pete Townshend credited Larry's own rock-opera, The Epic, for inspiring the rock-opera, Tommy, recorded by The Who.
Yeah - I found those articles you referenced (thanks, by the way) - it's all very, very interesting (to me anyway). I was just hoping to find a direct quote from Townshend which referred to Norman. Guess it just goes to prove you never know who's (no pun intended) going to hear your music and get something out of it.
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RE: classic jesus music - 12/3/2008 12:22:40 PM
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Bassists are somewhat under-appreciated, but a few I think could be nominated as being the best in classic Christian music (70s and 80s) are: Tim Gaines (Stryper), Jim Denton (Resurrection Band), and Tim Chandler (Daniel Amos/The Choir). I think someone is suffering from forum blur. There is another thread on the great bass players.
They are all good classic CCM bassists. I would add Jay Truax of LoveSong and Paul Clark & Friends; and John DeGroff of early Petra.
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RE: classic jesus music - 12/3/2008 2:10:32 PM
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ORIGINAL: nealmorsefan
Bassists are somewhat under-appreciated, but a few I think could be nominated as being the best in classic Christian music (70s and 80s) are: Tim Gaines (Stryper), Jim Denton (Resurrection Band), and Tim Chandler (Daniel Amos/The Choir). I think someone is suffering from forum blur. There is another thread on the great bass players.
They are all good classic CCM bassists. I would add Jay Truax of LoveSong and Paul Clark & Friends; and John DeGroff of early Petra.
And let's not forget Rick Cua!
Back on topic, I would add these to the Jesus Music Hall of Fame:
Barry McGuire
John Michael & Terry Talbot
Malcolm & Alwyn
Bob Bennett
Darryl Mansfield
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RE: classic jesus music - 12/4/2008 11:53:43 AM
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imperialsfan
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I have a cd its an accompinament song by whiteheart called we are his hands. if u listen close enough u will hear a young steve green in the background
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RE: classic jesus music - 12/4/2008 11:55:09 AM
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He was here in buffalo @ kingdom bound just last summer and this past summer
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RE: classic jesus music - 12/4/2008 3:59:42 PM
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Steve Green was the original lead singer for Whiteheart, but after their debut album he announced that hard rock wasn't his thing and left.
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RE: classic jesus music - 12/5/2008 10:08:29 AM
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I will say the only time my jaw has dropped over a bass player is the lick that the African guy plays on Paul Simon's "You Can Call Me Al". Incredible to say the least... 
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RE: classic jesus music - 12/5/2008 11:22:00 AM
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I became a Christian at a Servant concert in Piqua, OH on their SWIMMING IN A HUMAN OCEAN tour so I still have a huge soft spot in my heart for them. Most of my CCM tastes stem from the 80s but I’ve also gone back and discovered some earlier pioneers and TRY not to stop listening to more current CCM, too.
My overall favorites are:
Amy Grant
Rez
Petra (saw them on THIS MEANS WAR tour)
Servant (saw them at the above show and again in Dayton, OH just before they broke up. They played “It’s Midnight” from “the new album” that never came out.)
DeGarmo and Key (Saw them twice..once in Troy, OH for the STREET LIGHT tour and again in Lima, OH for the D&K tour)
Randy Stonehill
Steve Taylor
Whiteheart
Rich Mullins
Love Song
Larry Norman (not the FIRST Christian rock…that goes to the “Christian beat groups” in the early 60s in England, but arguably the first EXCELLENT Christian rocker.)
Earthsuit/MuteMath
Switchfoot
Daniel Amos
The Choir
Adam Again
This is far from a complete list but when we're talking 70s and 2000s it's less about me liking whole artists than it is certain songs here and there.
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